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Chippewas of the Thames First Nation
This band of Ojibwa's live in extreme southern Ontario. Below are links to google earth photos of their communities. In Ojibwa, they name their nation Desh-gan-ni Sip-pi. Remember, they allowed Munsee-Delaware Ojibwa's and Seneca (Oneida) Ojibwa's, to live with them. Their on-Reserve population according to a 2016's census, is 972. Canada did not provide 2021 census details for Chippewas of the Thames. Only Munsee. Munsee-Delaware on-Reserve population is 153 according to 2016's census. Oneida of the Thames on-Reserve population is 1,282 according to 2011's census. Canada did not provide any census data for Oneida Community (Oneida First Nation) during 2016's census and 2021's census. They (Oneida Ojibwa's) originally came from Ojibwa's River Credit Reserve (aka Grand River Reserve). They claim otherwise however. They relocated to Chippewas of the Thames Reserve between 1840-1846 and settled near Southwold. Munsee People also relocated to Chippewas of the Thames Reserve around 1840. Chippewas of the Thames Reserve was set aside in 1819 or 1822, when Longwoods Treaty was signed. Total on-Reserve population for Chippewas of the Thames Reserve now, is around 2,500 to 2,600. Around 1881 or 1882, friction between Chippewas of the Thames and Munsee-Delawares, led to Chippewas of the Thames leaders, telling Munsee-Delawares to leave their Reserve. It was about land. Total size of Chippewas of the Thames Reserve is 28.0 sq. mi. or 72.5 sq. km. It's really larger and yet is a small nation. They did not sign a 1790 treaty ceding their land in southern Ontario. That's bogus. They were at war against whites at that time. They ceded land when they signed Longwoods Treaty which allowed them to share an area of land nearly 1,000 sq. mi. in extent, with whites.
Rice Lake Ojibwa Historians recorded that Shawnee Ojibwa's left Ohio Valley to relocate to the Blind River and Mississagi River region in the late 17th century. During the second Beaver War, they defeated Italians and their idiotic native allies who controlled land south of the east portion of Lake Erie and southwest of Lake Ontario or the region from Niagara River east to near Syracuse, New York. After destroying all their villages, an order from Bawiting (Sault Ste. Marie) to Shawnee Ojibwa's at Ohio Valley was sent to relocate large numbers of Shawnee Ojibwa Soldiers and their families to Bawiting. From there they settled where Blind River and Mississagi River are. Both rivers mouths are located adjacent to Lake Huron's north shores and only a mile or two from each other. Natives of south Ontario were either extreminated by the Italians and their idiotic native allies or driven away. That took place before 1650. After 1670, Shawnee Ojibwa Soldiers launched major military campaigns against the Italians who had established many villages at south Ontario. Their most important was Taranto. Far more Italians lived at south Ontario than south of the southeast portion of Lake Erie and southwest portion of Lake Ontario. St. Lawrence River was used by Italian Soldiers to force their way to south Ontario. Thus, it took longer to drive them away. Ojibwa Soldiers had destroyed all Italian Villages throughout south Ontario by 1700. In 1700, Italian leaders requested for treaty negotiations. Ojibwa leaders agreed and an agreement to stop the vicious war was signed at an Italian Fort near Mohawk River at what is now New York State. Probably near Albany, New York which was a Dutch settlement. The Dutch Colony extended from Albany to New Amsterdam (now New York City). Adjacent on the north was the Italian Colony of Quebec. Ojibwa leaders agreed to allow the Italian Colony of Quebec to control land from Lake Ontario's east shores where Oswego Rivers mouth is, then to Oneida River then to Oneida Lake then to the canal natives built long before which led to Mohawk River, then to what is now Albany, New York. Ojibwa leaders demanded that Ojibwa People be set aside large areas of land east of Lake Ontario. That Italian leaders agreed to. Ojibwa leaders needed to know if white leaders were willing to share land! Shawnee Ojibwa's of south Ontario live from Mississagi Reserve (it's where Blind River and Mississagi Rivers mouths are) to Lake Nipissing then south to all of south Ontario. All Ojibwa Reserves on Manitoulin Island are Shawnee Ojibwa Reserves. Grand River Reserve (it's really River Credit Reserve) to Chippewa's of the Thames Reserve then to Walpole Island Reserve are Shawnee Ojibwa Reserves. Shawnee means south in Ojibwa. Actually "shawn" means south in Ojibwa. The "shaw-an" means southern in Ojibwa Language. Translated "Shaw-neeg" means South People or South O-jib-ba-wa's.
Ojibway Traditionalists have had problems with Munsee Delawares since 19th century. They set aside 640 acres or 259 hectares for their chief. Today, Munsee of the Thames have gained their own Reserve status (that happened in 1967) and more of Chippewas of the Thames Reserve's land. They now have 2,600 acres or 1,054 hectares. Ojibway leaders allowed them to settle at their Reserve around 1840. They were probably from Grand River Reserve or Six Nations Reserve (it's really River Credit Reserve). Munsee community is located along Jubilee Road. Their population has changed little since 19th century. Ojibwa leaders allowed them to move to their small nation. Same goes for Oneida of the Thames. Their smarter. Many Oneida People prefer Oneida Settlement or Oneida Community, rather than Oneida of the Thames Reserve. They did not pay to move to Chippewas of the Thames Reserve. They first requested from Ojibwa leaders for opportunity to live with them. Ojibwa leaders agreed. There are Oneida Settlements within Chippewas of the Thames Reserve. Munsee People are troublemakers. They are so confident they claim Muncey is their town. They broke agreements they reached with Ojibwa leaders who gave them permission to live with them and land for a village. They are so stupid they think they are not Ojibwa. Some came from Big Bear Creek Reserve which today is known as Moravian Delaware Reserve. Of course, it's no longer a problem to leaders of Chippewas of the Thames who were given Big Bear Creek Reserve or Moravian Reserve as it's known now. That was included in 1819's Longwoods Treaty. They received $120 million to forget about it or Moravian Reserve. However, there was never any dispute. Big Bear Creek Reserve is yet there. It's Moravian Reserve. Some of their Reserve was lost yet those Ojibwa's that lost land at Big Bear Creek Reserve, were allowed to relocate to Chippewas of the Thames Reserve. However, they caused difficulties.
Chippewas of the Thames Entrance
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Oneida Northeast Town Road View Demographics of Chippewas of the Thames Reserve
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Chippewas of the Thames: On-Reserve population is 972. Over 350 dwellings with 347 lived in. Average household size is 2.8 persons per household.
Munsee: On-Reserve population is 162. 66 dwellings with 56 lived in. Average household size is 2.9 persons per household.
Oneida: On-Reserve population is 1,551. Over 540 dwellings with 535 lived in. Average household size is 2.8 persons per household.
Chippewas of the Thames on-Reserve Population is 2,685.