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Chippewas of the Thames First Nation


This band of Shawnee Ojibwa's of Chippewa's of the Thames First Nation live at extreme southern Ontario. Below are links to google earth photos of their communities. In Ojibwa Language, they name their nation Desh-gan-ni Sip-pi. Ojibwa Language has died out at Chippewa's of the Thames First Nation. Remember, they allowed Munsee-Delaware Ojibwa's and Seneca (Oneida) Ojibwa's, to live with them. Their on-Reserve population according to 2011's census, is 762. Since 2011 their population has either increased or decreased. Number of dwellings according to 2011's census is 289 with 275 lived. Average household size is 2.8 persons per household. Munsee-Delaware on-Reserve population is 129 according to 2021's census. Oneida of the Thames on-Reserve population is 1,282 according to 2011's census. The Oneida originally came from the Ojibwa's River Credit Reserve which was eliminated around 1840. They claim otherwise however! They relocated to Chippewas of the Thames Reserve between 1840-1846 and settled near Southwold. Munsee-Delaware People also relocated to Chippewas of the Thames Reserve around 1840. Chippewas of the Thames Reserve was set aside in 1819 or 1822, when Longwoods Treaty was signed. More demographics of Chippewa's of the Thames First Nation is further below. Their history is covered up. For some reason they've forgotten they're Shawnee Ojibwa's. Ojibwa history writers from the Rice Lake region knew many Shawnee Ojibwa's from Ohio Valley were instructed to relocate to Michigan then to near Bawiting then to the mouth of Mississagi River. After a prolonged vicious war against Italian invaders in the late 17th century, they had drove the Italians back to east of Lake Ontario. Afterwards, Shawnee Ojibwa's settled south Ontario. Michigan had already been colonized by Shawnee Ojibwa's who were Ojibwa's chief Sagima instructed to force their way south to Ohio Valley in the early or mid 16th century. Many forced their way as far south as Florida. At south Ontario use of Mississauga Ojibwa's is used instead of Shawnee Ojibwa's. Around 1881 or 1882, friction between Chippewas of the Thames and Munsee-Delawares, led to Chippewas of the Thames leaders telling Munsee-Delawares to leave their Reserve. It was about land. Total size of Chippewas of the Thames Reserve is 28.0 sq. mi. or 72.5 sq. km. It's really much larger or at least three times larger or 84 sq. mi. or even larger. It's a small Ojibwa Reserve. They did not sign a 1790 treaty ceding their land in southern Ontario. That's bogus. They were at war against whites at that time. If they did cede land in 1790 it was for a land addition to the vast Ojibwa Reservations created in 1784 and 1785. American leaders could not control their greed and selfishness and illegally signed treaty agreeements with non authentic Ojibwa leaders in 1805 and 1807 that ceded Reservation land. It led to the vicious War of 1812. 1807's Detroit Treaty actually instigated the vicious War of 1812. Most War of 1812 Battles were fought at south Ontario. They ceded land when they signed Longwoods Treaty which allowed them to share an area of land nearly 1,000 sq. mi. in extent, with whites. That promise was not honored by white leaders!



Ojibwa Traditionalists have had problems with Munsee Delawares since 19th century. They set aside 640 acres or 259 hectares for their chief. Today, Munsee of the Thames have gained their own Reserve status (that happened in 1967) and more of Chippewas of the Thames Reserve's land. They now have 2,600 acres or 1,054 hectares. Ojibwa leaders allowed them to settle at their Reserve around 1840. They were supposedly from Grand River Reserve or Six Nations Reserve. Munsee community is located along Jubilee Road. Their population has changed little since 19th century. Ojibwa leaders allowed them to move to their small nation. Same goes for Oneida of the Thames. Their smarter. Many Oneida People prefer Oneida Settlement or Oneida Community, rather than Oneida of the Thames Reserve. They did not pay to move to Chippewas of the Thames Reserve. They first requested from Ojibwa leaders for opportunity to live with them. Ojibwa leaders agreed. There are Oneida Settlements within Chippewas of the Thames Reserve. Munsee People are troublemakers. They are so confident they claim Muncey is their town. They broke agreements they reached with Ojibwa leaders who gave them permission to live with them and land for a village. They are so stupid they think they are not Ojibwa. They came from Big Bear Creek Reserve which today is known as Moravian Delaware Reserve. Of course, it's no longer a problem to leaders of Chippewas of the Thames who were given Big Bear Creek Reserve or Moravian Reserve as it's known now. That was included in 1819's Longwoods Treaty. They received $120 million to forget about it or Moravian Reserve. However, there was never any dispute. Big Bear Creek Reserve is yet there. It's Moravian Reserve. Some of their Reserve was lost yet those Ojibwa's that lost land at Big Bear Creek Reserve, were allowed to relocate to Chippewas of the Thames Reserve. However, they caused difficulties. We don't want anything to do with them and their deceit.



Map of Chippewas of the Thames Reserve

Chippewas of the Thames Road View

Chippewas of the Thames Road View

Chippewas of the Thames Road View

Chippewas of the Thames Road View

Chippewas of the Thames Road View

Chippewas of the Thames Road View

Chippewas of the Thames Road View

Chippewas of the Thames Road View

Chippewas of the Thames Road View



Oneida Road View

Oneida Road View

Oneida Road View

Oneida Road View

Oneida Road View

Oneida Road View

Oneida Road View

Oneida Road View

Oneida Road View

Oneida Road View

Oneida Road View

Oneida Road View

Oneida Road View

Oneida Road View

Oneida Road View

Oneida Road View

Oneida Road View



Muncey Road View

Muncey Road View

Muncey Road View

Muncey Road View

Muncey Road View

Muncey Road View



Demographics

Chippewas of the Thames: On-Reserve population is 762 (2011's census).

Munsee-Delaware: On-Reserve population is 129 (2021's census).

Oneida: On-Reserve population is 1,282 (2011's census).

Chippewas of the Thames on-Reserve Population is 2,173. However, it's probably more.






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